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	<title>Comments on: Flash Cookies: The Silent Privacy Killer</title>
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	<description>A super hero. With no powers. Or motivation.</description>
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		<title>By: Bibliophile</title>
		<link>http://www.imasuper.com/66/technology/flash-cookies-the-silent-privacy-killer/comment-page-3/#comment-35106</link>
		<dc:creator>Bibliophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, thank you, thank you!! FINALLY I figure out how I&#039;m being tracked. Adobe is the culprit. Grr to Adobe. GRRR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, thank you, thank you!! FINALLY I figure out how I&#8217;m being tracked. Adobe is the culprit. Grr to Adobe. GRRR.</p>
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		<title>By: mannyalbite</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannyalbite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 06:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the best so far out there to remove flash cookies is an ad-on by Firefox we will never have privacy Big Brother is out there and I say this with a sadness have a good internet  security and I do recommence better privacy in fire fox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the best so far out there to remove flash cookies is an ad-on by Firefox we will never have privacy Big Brother is out there and I say this with a sadness have a good internet  security and I do recommence better privacy in fire fox</p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
		<link>http://www.imasuper.com/66/technology/flash-cookies-the-silent-privacy-killer/comment-page-3/#comment-33581</link>
		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 17:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi -
Good article.  There&#039;s a similar write-up at http://sazeit.com/main/Flash-Cookies which points out that those using Firefox can get the BetterPrivacy plugin to manage the flash-cookies from their browsers.

You raised some really good point about the default settings implemented by Adobe and the simple fact that Adobe, though not hiding LSOs, is not doing anything to advertise their existence either.   --  If you recall, Adobe was a Mac-linked product for many years before gaining prominence on Windows machines, and Mac&#039;s attitude was, is, and most likely always will be &quot;you don&#039;t need to know&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi -<br />
Good article.  There&#8217;s a similar write-up at <a href="http://sazeit.com/main/Flash-Cookies" rel="nofollow">http://sazeit.com/main/Flash-Cookies</a> which points out that those using Firefox can get the BetterPrivacy plugin to manage the flash-cookies from their browsers.</p>
<p>You raised some really good point about the default settings implemented by Adobe and the simple fact that Adobe, though not hiding LSOs, is not doing anything to advertise their existence either.   &#8212;  If you recall, Adobe was a Mac-linked product for many years before gaining prominence on Windows machines, and Mac&#8217;s attitude was, is, and most likely always will be &#8220;you don&#8217;t need to know&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: RVCj</title>
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		<dc:creator>RVCj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good information. Lots of people know that Adobe stores Flash Player locally on their machine because Flash is so ubiquitous. But I have to believe that most people have no clue that it includes cookie-like objects that track browsing activity. I&#039;m surprised these objects are not configurable at the browser level. Thanks for the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good information. Lots of people know that Adobe stores Flash Player locally on their machine because Flash is so ubiquitous. But I have to believe that most people have no clue that it includes cookie-like objects that track browsing activity. I&#8217;m surprised these objects are not configurable at the browser level. Thanks for the post!</p>
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		<title>By: Piczmania</title>
		<link>http://www.imasuper.com/66/technology/flash-cookies-the-silent-privacy-killer/comment-page-3/#comment-33136</link>
		<dc:creator>Piczmania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly..this is what i was looking..thanks a ton for writing about flash cookies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly..this is what i was looking..thanks a ton for writing about flash cookies</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 15:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ opinar:

If this is the best thing you have to block spammers, you are truly defenseless.  If it actually worked well, spammers would just trash the LSO&#039;s regularly and soon all your base would belong to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ opinar:</p>
<p>If this is the best thing you have to block spammers, you are truly defenseless.  If it actually worked well, spammers would just trash the LSO&#8217;s regularly and soon all your base would belong to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 15:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kyle Simpson:

So you REALLY think it&#039;s okay to have a browser object that you install which does the following?

1. Silently makes a history of almost every site you have ever went to.
2. Gives you no warning that it is doing this.
3. Keeps this history indefinitely.
4. Makes you go to their own website to clear this history.

I&#039;d have to say no to all 4.  I&#039;m not one of those people who has ever spent an instant whining about &quot;evil cookies.&quot;  With standard cookies, they&#039;re integrated into browsers and the OS.  They&#039;re established, well publicized, and have reasonable, customizable policies for management.

If Adobe&#039;s best &quot;reasonable and customizable&quot; policy is to not publicize that they do this and give you no way to delete these via local machine or browser?  Well, I don&#039;t care what their intent is.  

- If they are &quot;VERY concerned with properly managing these LSO&quot; then why aren&#039;t they informing users when they install flash?

- If &quot;This may not be as graceful as your browser’s cookie management&quot; then why don&#039;t they... GASP, work within the browser&#039;s own data management?  Or give a good API to browsers which allows them to manage ubiquitous Flash LSO&#039;s?  If you&#039;re basically reinventing the cookie in a bigger form, couldn&#039;t you even imitate the same paradigm?

- Why can&#039;t Adobe manage these things half as good as a third party?  Seriously.  Better Privacy firefox add-on.  Has just about all basic settings and views that I need to manage LSOs.  Probably made by some annoyed guy over the course of 3 weeks worth of lonely evenings.

To me, it seems like a cop out.  Regardless of how &quot;worried&quot; Adobe is, they have done a horrible job at allowing users to manage these things.  That&#039;s like saying that a parent is &quot;worried&quot; about child safety while their kid is playing in the street.  At some point in time, outcome matters.  And these things have been around for a couple years now, so being able to work this out is inexcusable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kyle Simpson:</p>
<p>So you REALLY think it&#8217;s okay to have a browser object that you install which does the following?</p>
<p>1. Silently makes a history of almost every site you have ever went to.<br />
2. Gives you no warning that it is doing this.<br />
3. Keeps this history indefinitely.<br />
4. Makes you go to their own website to clear this history.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have to say no to all 4.  I&#8217;m not one of those people who has ever spent an instant whining about &#8220;evil cookies.&#8221;  With standard cookies, they&#8217;re integrated into browsers and the OS.  They&#8217;re established, well publicized, and have reasonable, customizable policies for management.</p>
<p>If Adobe&#8217;s best &#8220;reasonable and customizable&#8221; policy is to not publicize that they do this and give you no way to delete these via local machine or browser?  Well, I don&#8217;t care what their intent is.  </p>
<p>- If they are &#8220;VERY concerned with properly managing these LSO&#8221; then why aren&#8217;t they informing users when they install flash?</p>
<p>- If &#8220;This may not be as graceful as your browser’s cookie management&#8221; then why don&#8217;t they&#8230; GASP, work within the browser&#8217;s own data management?  Or give a good API to browsers which allows them to manage ubiquitous Flash LSO&#8217;s?  If you&#8217;re basically reinventing the cookie in a bigger form, couldn&#8217;t you even imitate the same paradigm?</p>
<p>- Why can&#8217;t Adobe manage these things half as good as a third party?  Seriously.  Better Privacy firefox add-on.  Has just about all basic settings and views that I need to manage LSOs.  Probably made by some annoyed guy over the course of 3 weeks worth of lonely evenings.</p>
<p>To me, it seems like a cop out.  Regardless of how &#8220;worried&#8221; Adobe is, they have done a horrible job at allowing users to manage these things.  That&#8217;s like saying that a parent is &#8220;worried&#8221; about child safety while their kid is playing in the street.  At some point in time, outcome matters.  And these things have been around for a couple years now, so being able to work this out is inexcusable.</p>
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		<title>By: aston</title>
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		<dc:creator>aston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 09:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love you so much i like you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love you so much i like you</p>
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		<title>By: zep</title>
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		<dc:creator>zep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you rename the macromedia flash folder you can&#039;t listen to streaming radio.
Locks up mouse clicks w/ cpu @100%. Weird, just pulling up Task manager
[alt-ctrl-del] allows mouse clicks to turn off site normally though still at 100%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you rename the macromedia flash folder you can&#8217;t listen to streaming radio.<br />
Locks up mouse clicks w/ cpu @100%. Weird, just pulling up Task manager<br />
[alt-ctrl-del] allows mouse clicks to turn off site normally though still at 100%.</p>
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		<title>By: opinar</title>
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		<dc:creator>opinar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 11:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, from a webmaster&#039;s point of view, it&#039;s one of the few things we have to block spammers, so as creepy as it may sound, I am in favour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, from a webmaster&#8217;s point of view, it&#8217;s one of the few things we have to block spammers, so as creepy as it may sound, I am in favour.</p>
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